This was a responce to an admin saying he had to keep lots of computer system images and complaining why it took so much space.

Saving server disk space and putting your fat clients on a diet.
Submitted by carboman on Tue, 05/12/2009 – 15:45.

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Where I used to work we would have just one basic windoze image. We went away from having special images. Then we would push out special any software via open source apps for the intended desktops. Saves a boatload of room. We also had a citrix server and windows terminal servers for most of the apps used. That saved disk space on clients also. We basically went to a thin client environment and said goodbye to major imaging problems. You do not need all the blasted images. I am semi-retired so I am not in all of that anymore. At home we use k12ltsp with diskless thin clients. NO imaging required except for the servers (a whopping two of them). We also use a lot of web apps, so we do not have to install software on the clients and it then also takes a load off the ltsp server. All admin can be done from one office. Even the ltsp server is just one time install for any software. The only time you need to do sneaker support is when doing hw replacement or repair. I have tried fog and had a few issues with it. Maybe they have improved it since I last used it. I do use drbl/clonezilla on occasion when building systems for friends. I did use ghost years ago also. With rdp you can easilty access a windows terminal server or citrix server via rdp the last time I tried it. You can also use vnc to access apple servers. If you still need a lot of images use a virtual machine server, but use the home drives to save locad data……. So then the image does not need to be modified.
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What open source apps did
Submitted by chad on Thu, 05/14/2009 – 16:28.

What open source apps did you use to push out software to windows clients? I didn’t know such a thing existed. The problem with Citrix is, it is VERY expensive. A lot of time, in a windows environment, thin clients can be just as costly to maintain, you just get ease of administration out of the exchange.

To me, thin clients solve a different problem. Many people can not go this route, and so should look at open imaging solutions. FOG is best in game right now.

It really depends on the scenario your organization is in. Some may be able to use RDP, some a cloning solution, some thin clients.

Thanks for the info Carboman

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Where I used to work the
Submitted by carboman on Sat, 05/30/2009 – 22:58.

Where I used to work the thin clients had images that you had to locally update ( pita). With ltsp you pxe boot everything so no permanent image or flashing is required.and NO client images to deal with at all. What is neat is the new gpxe format where you can load an image from a web server, so a thin client can be booted anywhere in the solar system if here is a network connection. Not all the security issues have been dealt with yet though. It will come. gpxe also works easily with iscsi for fat clients. So you could boot an image anyware, Btw, almost any computer can be a diskless/thin client. You can buy equipment dirt cheap now. You can also convert old clunkers to diskless. when I first started using ltsp, I used old pentium 1/2’s with floppy based etherboot. Etherboot turns a system without pxe boot into pxe boot via floppy, cdrom, or usb. An internal compact flash drive would also work.

Wnat to blow someone’s mind?. Run vnc to an apple server in one window, run rdp in second window connected to a window server, and use a third window to run linux apps on a pentium one diskless ltsp client.

There are several ways to get a mswindows box to run or access linux apps. Cgywin of course and Kde for windows via ssh. There is an add-on for ltsp that will let rdp clients connect to it. I think also there is an ltsp client for windows. See soruceforge,net for details. There is also a version of ltsp that ran on suse linux that let you access the ltsp server via a web browser/vnc combination. I first saw it run on suse. but it was not free. I am sure it could be duplicated since all the software was open. I will have to look on source forge as that may have been already done. Safeware was name of the company. They sent me a demo of it. but I never really used it because of $$. I think I still have the machine in the closet I had it on. I may fire it up and see what I can do to emulate it. There is also another company that makes a server to do just that, but it is $$ also. They also have a free live demo disk that you can dl. I see it on distrowatch once in a while. I will have to look up the name. It is Ulteo.. I have not received an email from them in a while. Worst case scenario, you could always set up a mini virtual machine with a live nic connection of very small size with a pxe boot floppy image that would boot into the ltsp server and then run the apps in the virtual machine window. In fact the ram could be set at 128 megs or less! There is more than one way to skin a cat.

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